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Should we review a bit what's happened over the past year ? There's been a lot ... of...
 
 
'''Jonathan :''' Last year, I think that all of you know that last year was a specific year for France. We had two attacks in Paris, we had many terrorist attacks. (Sorry, each time I start in English, I need to reboot my English brain.) That's been really a strange year because we also fought in Europe for many things in April. We fought against patterns on the software, as you know, in Europe, patterns are not applying on software, we are free, we could use software without patterns. But last year, I think French Government has made a move for more protection, after Paris attacks and when you motivate your decisions with fear, it's really hard. You take bad decisions, you would like to close more things, you would like to close internet, and that was a big issue last year ... to verify...
 
 
'''Marianne :''' Yeah...
 
 
'''Jonathan :''' ... to fight against the move the French Government went to...
 
 
'''Marianne :''' ... So, unfortunately, in the name of the fight against terrorism – and I'm sure that you guys in America are often [dealing ?] with this – there's been a lot of policy making in the wrong direction in the recent past. Unfortunately, as free software activists, we feel like five or ten years of battles that we've carried out are kind of being currently backlashed right now. That's kind of topical. There's also a bill called "Pour une république numérique" which stands for  "For a digital republic"... So, many issues around the internet and around software are being discussed but unfortunately in the context of the fight against terrorism.
 
  
 
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Version du 7 septembre 2021 à 21:28


Titre : Free/Libre alternatives to GAFAMs Internet a review of French Initiatives

Intervenant : Marianne Corvellec (April) and Jonathan Le Lous (April)

Lieu : LibrePlanet 2016

Date : mars 2014

Durée : 0h44mn23s

Page de la vidéo : [1]

Lien vers la vidéo : [2]

00' transcription HlnBo

Marianne : Well, first of all, thanks for having us. It’s a pleasure to be here, we were here last year, also representing April. We’ll say a few words about this french organization in one slide, but today we'll speak about free – in the freedom sense [meaning] as we know – alternatives to GAFAM's internet. "GAFAM" stands for Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft. And we'll kind of report on initiatives that has happened in France where we used to be activists. So it's not work that we necessarily directly got involved with but we were reporting on it. April was founded in 1996 in France, it has been super close to the FSF ever since. The mission is to promote and protect free software. It's an advocacy organization so it's very much like on a protocol level, institutional, with expertise, legally... [revoir la formulation ?] We have 3600 members, 3 full time employees and a large community and it's a french speaking organization. We're actually based in Canada.

Jonathan : Yeah and after you heard me, I think you know I'm a french speaking guy because... you know... when you hear Marianne [?]

Marianne : Should we say a few words about ourselves ? Well, we're both members for April and we actually also pay a tribute to an initiative that inspired another french organization called Framasoft that we'll introduce a little later. [They are] two separated organizations that don't [really] have the same purposes but we're aligned obviously in values and in missions, just so we don't get confused, but we'll come back to this later.

Should we review a bit what's happened over the past year ? There's been a lot ... of...

Jonathan : ... Last year, I think that all of you know that last year was a specific year for France. We had two attacks in Paris, we had many terrorist attacks. (Sorry, each time I start in English, I need to reboot my English brain.) That's been really a strange year because we also fought in Europe for many things in April. We fought against patterns on the software, as you know, in Europe, patterns are not applying on software, we are free, we could use software without patterns. But last year, I think French Government has made a move for more protection, after Paris attacks and when you motivate your decisions with fear, it's really hard. You take bad decisions, you would like to close more things, you would like to close internet, and that was a big issue last year to fight against the move the French Government went to.

Marianne : ... So, unfortunately, in the name of the fight against terrorism – and I'm sure that you guys in America are often [dealing ?] with this – there's been a lot of policy making in the wrong direction in the recent past. Unfortunately, as free software activists, we feel like five or ten years of battles that we've carried out are kind of being currently backlashed right now. That's kind of topical. There's also a bill called "Pour une république numérique" which stands for "For a digital republic"... So, many issues around the internet and around software are being discussed but unfortunately in the context of the fight against terrorism.

What is "Free libre software" is an exhibition, it's a current campaign by April where, well, everyone want to print out those boards and to reach out the general audience to explain what free software is and what it can do for digital freedoms.

Jonathan : That's really important to continue to educate people with what's exactly free software. You know in France, it's very easier because you don't have the double [meaning] of "free". In France we say "Logiciel libre" ("Libre software" directly) and it's really important to say, in moments like that : "When you share something, when you open something, we are not threatened by that. It's only more secured, you could both secure and continue to share, continue to open your borders even if you have some risky issues.

But we did many many things in one year because full employees [feel very involved ? want to feel rewarded ?], we [achieved] many works with political guys, that's really interesting but this year, we would like to focus more on initiative in France, as Marianne said, initiative against all the service oriented solutions. We have today all the web-centric internet. As you know, many years ago, when Google arose, [when] the Google area [came], [we've seen] a new vision of the software. Before that, we were focused on a laptop and a server, you have your [somewhere???], you need to install that and at this time, many companies like Microsoft would have liked to lock you on your laptop or to lock you directly on your machine. Today it's not the same thing, we change the mindset of all the market, the internal market or all the big companies. After that, we will see, we will focus on what exactly that move means for many industrial big companies in...

Marianne : ... [online?] services

04'16 transcription HlnBo

What is "Free libre software" is an exhibition, it's a current campaign by April where, well, everyone want to print out those boards and to reach out the general audience to explain what free software is and what it can do for digital freedoms.

Jonathan : That's really important to continue to educate people with what's exactly free software. You know in France, it's very easier because you don't have the double [meaning] of "free". In France we say "Logiciel libre" ("Libre software" directly) and it's really important to say, in moments like that : "When you share something, when you open something, we are not threatened by that. It's only more secured, you could both secure and continue to share, continue to open your borders even if you have some risky issues.

But we did many many things in one year because full employees [feel very involved ? want to feel rewarded ?], we [achieved] many works with political guys, that's really interesting but this year, we would like to focus more on initiative in France, as Marianne said, initiative against all the service oriented solutions. We have today all the web-centric internet. As you know, many years ago, when Google arose, [when] the Google area [came], [we've seen] a new vision of the software. Before that, we were focused on a laptop and a server, you have your [somewhere???], you need to install that and at this time, many companies like Microsoft would have liked to lock you on your laptop or to lock you directly on your machine. Today it's not the same thing, we change the mindset of all the market, the internal market or all the big companies. After that, we will see, we will focus on what exactly that move means for many industrial big companies in...

Marianne : ... [online?] services

06'33 transcription en cours par HlnBo

Jonathan : That's really important to understand [that] today, like TV channels, Google would like to sell your brain, your identity, they would like to sell more and more about you. They don't care about the software, they don't care about what we're going to pay to access to technology. It's really important because that change everything in your fight. We can't be only focused on "Against proprietary software", we need to move [to] other visions. That's really interesting because at the end of the last year, we had a very interesting paper from Wired, some arty newspaper...

Marianne : ... outstanding the trend ...

Jonathan : Yeah selling the trend... They're not used to speak about Open Source and they said : "Open Source software went nuclear this year" That's true. Open Source today, it's nuclear. If you walk in IT – I walk in IT everyday – Open Source is everywhere. I walk [on the] infrastructure side if Open Source is everywhere.